Wednesday, February 10, 2016

Parliamentary debate about 500 zł per child. “This program selected and electoral fraud” – Gazeta Wyborcza

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             Project  500 & # x142; gold for the child in the  Parliament. Minister families , labor and social  policies & # x142; social Issues El & #  x17C; bieta Rafalska
                  
 
                  
                 
                    

Motion PLN 500 per child in the Sejm. Minister of family, work and social policy Elizabeth Rafalska (Fig. Przemek Wierzchowski / Agencja Gazeta)

                  
                  
                  


                  
             

             
         
     
   
   
   
 
 
 
 
More than six hours debating today members of the so-called. Project 500 zł per child. "It" program for selected and electoral fraud, "- said the chairman of the club PO Slawomir Neumann." Eight years I was in Parliament many times and told about the family policy. When you flowed like water off a duck's back "- he was responsible minister of the family, work and social policy Elizabeth Rafalska

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                          
 


                 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
         


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Parliament voted today in the first reading the so-called. 500 plus project, through which families receive 500 zł for the second and subsequent children, and in less affluent families also the first. The project was sent to the commission, which is to submit a report in time for consideration of it at the current meeting of the Sejm. Payment of benefits to be launched in April.

Platform: 500 zł for a child is a "program for selected"

Minister families , Labour and social policy Elizabeth Rafalska said that following the introduction of family spending "will oscillate" between 3 percent. GDP per year, while currently these expenditures amount to approx. 2 per cent. GDP. - For such a project waiting for years - stwiedziła.

According to Slawomir Neumann with PO 500 zł for a child is a "program for selected and electoral fraud" because the election campaign PiS promised 500 zł per child. - Introduce the project, which excludes 3 million children and 1.8 million families. Divide the children for better and worse - said Neumann. He called for addressing the draft Platform, according to which from 1 July 500 zł will be paid for each child by the Social Insurance Institution.

Rafalska accused him of hypocrisy - Eight years I was in Parliament, would stand on the podium many times told about social policy, family policy and everything flowed upon you like water off a duck's back. You were totally indifferent - assessed. In turn, the Deputy Minister Bartosz Marczuk added that the cost of introducing benefits for the first child would be in 2017. An additional 19.5 billion zł.

Modern: will benefit the richest

According to Catherine Lubnauer of Modern program 500 zł per child includes a number of "indecent" solutions, because of the addition will benefit the wealthiest, and do not receive it, families with income above 801 zł per person. That is why modern submitted a proposal to reject the draft in the first reading. 37 deputies supported it, was 387 against and 15 abstentions.

Modern announced amendments to the draft, including the introduction of the upper income threshold and the principle of "penny for penny" (in the case of exceeding the threshold income benefit would be reduced by the amount by which exceeded the criterion).

Marchuk said that if the provision of child care was applied the principle of " penny for penny, "the cost of the program would increase by approx. 2 billion zł. In turn, the introduction of the top criterion in the amount of 5 thousand. zł would result in an increase in administrative expenses of 76 million, and savings on this account is 81 million zł.

Kukiz'15: Costs 500 per child above the profit

Deputy Kukiz'15 Rafał Wójcikowski assessed that the money for the program "Family 500 plus" will be wasted, because it will not bring any effect. He said that thanks to the program fertility rate will rise from 1.3 up to 1.5. - Does it protect our demographic apocalypse in the coming years? Themselves admit to the fact that no - he said, turning to the PiS deputies and the government.

According to Wójcikowski if you add up the costs in the next 10 years, and divide them by the number of children they have is thanks to the program generate it "on one of the new baby comes out 850 thousand. zł." Meanwhile - as he said - a child during his adult life will bring to the pension scheme 350 thousand. zł. - Expenditures almost three times higher than income. It is poorly constructed program - emphasized.

He added that the club Kukiz'15 proposes another solution, which is used successfully in Israel and is based on the concept of Milton Friedman. As for the so-called. negative income tax. Wójcikowski explained that this concept is that "we the people who work and have children loosened up as soon as possible, the tax wedge". - To practice they did not pay taxes, if they have the appropriate number of children - he said.

         


         


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                                 this is not no family-oriented program, only organized political corruption. promised elections dark people bought it, and now you have to pay money wasted, it will not help procreation
                               
                             
                           


     
     
     
     

     
     

     

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                                 genialnialnie program is simple: 'fucking kill' a lot of all to give 'a little' few
                               
                             
                           


     
     
     
     

     
     

     

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                                 I listened quite closely the debate on this subject and I have to say something which is a big surprise for me, that speech deputies party Kukiz 15 surprised me positively, especially that probably only the party noticed that this program is wasteful beyond measure, which does not but nothing improves, but spoils. The costs of this program are horrendous, and if we had to bear such expenses, it would be much better if it was associated with the program, which should give a big impetus to increasing the birth rate, but also pro-development. The proposal envoy in a t-shirt, surprisingly, could be the basis for such a comprehensive settlement. I fear, however, that it will be downplayed, as frivolous and even ridiculous. He is worthy of this part alone envoy, because if you present this type of idea, brave, stereotypical, going against the current ruling (because they do not suffer deep reforms), the only chance is to do this in a serious way, which connects and does not antagonize, It allows you to build a coalition. You can not look for allies among people who had just offended, and certainly a manifestation of negative attitude to the round table may offend someone, and another set negatively. It may seem unlikely, but I see that the idea of ​​a convergence of the economic program PO, and especially the proposed unified contract, which was presented by, among others, Janusz Lewandowski and Dariusz Rosati.
    Joanna Mucha rightly states that the program +500 virtually prevent any movement in pro-social politics. But he also impossible because of the great cost, need pro-growth reforms, because they often produce the effect with a delay of at least a year. If it was not a total impossibility of parliament over the party agreements, mainly the fault of the PiS, we could for the money that will be consummated, create a program that would bring Poland out of this trap of average development, so that was criticized during the election campaign. Please look at this objectively for two programs that I mentioned, and you can really come to the conclusion that even the PO, Kukiz 15 and possibly Modern could come to a consensus on such a truly innovative program to measure our enormous needs. But unfortunately PiS to push so anyway its devastating idea that hamper even average growth and more we borrow.
                               
                             
                           


     
     
     
     

     
     

     

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                                 Proposals PiS and PO is a mockery of human absurdity :) chasing nonsense. Already even kukizowcy say makes more sense in this case.
                               
                             
                           


     
     
     
     

     
     

     

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                                 Brilliant, wonderful program. Immediately I would like to find a lady willing to now start working on the child, preferably once the second or third. I look forward to the proposals, please just do not press and push for all women enough ;-))
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                                 The program achieved its main purpose: to bring PiS those in power.
                               
                             
                           


     
     
     
     

     
     

     

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